La lingua geniale 9 ragioni per amare il greco

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Start with the last chapter about the history and evolution of the Greek language. Unless you've studied it as a child and have nightmares as an adult, in which case you are characterised as the ideal reader of this book - you once fled the study of Ancient Greek. Which left me a little alienated. Grammar causes me seizures anyway, so perhaps I can fit into the scope.

There's a lot of jokey, hyperbolic casual language in this book. To sound chatty, the author uses much repetition. It's a stylist

Start with the last chapter about the history and evolution of the Greek language. Unless you've studied it as a child and have nightmares as an adult, in which case you are characterised as the ideal reader of this book - you once fled the study of Ancient Greek. Which left me a little alienated. Grammar causes me seizures anyway, so perhaps I can fit into the scope.

There's a lot of jokey, hyperbolic casual language in this book. To sound chatty, the author uses much repetition. It's a stylistic thing, but irritating in English as are the several proofreading errors I found. Speed of delivery to the publisher works against the slow pace of studying another language. That was my reason for reading it. I am interested in the struggle to learn a new language and how each language carries its own characteristics. I taught myself French from books a few years ago, which means I can read may non-idiomatic works and sound them incorrectly in my head as I read.

Having been raised as a speaker of modern Greek, I was always looking for the connection to Ancient Greek, alas there is some, but not that much. There is an essentialist argument in the last chapter that suggests that ancient Greeks were bound by a sense that they all intellectually thought themselves the same through their common language. I doubt it. Not unlike modern Greeks talking about Alexander as though he was Greek, or their direct line to Pericles. Nonsense. But then such warm and fuzzy ideas are easy to write.

There is a consistency according to the author in Attic and Koine Greek, and an independence of dialects spoken by all its outlying people - very interesting how this lingua franca survived in double form - the local and the common tongue for all other Greeks. One an instrumental language of wide connection and the other a home spun language. Not unlike speaking one language at home and another in the world - the immigrant's lot.

Apparently, Ancient Greek fostered individuality, no two ancients wrote the same, or expressed an idea that same way. Interesting, modern Greeks are much the same, two Greeks in a room gives you three opinions, they say; that must be progress.

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Oct 22, 2020 Uhtred rated it liked it

I have seen the author of this book many times on television and since she made a good impression on me, I decided to buy her book which deals with a subject that interests me very much.
The author on TV talked about it with great passion and unfortunately I must say that this passion is not transmitted in the book. The book is very readable and undoubtedly has solid foundations, but it is written in a too didactic form, a bit cold compared to what I expected after hearing her speak. It is percei
I have seen the author of this book many times on television and since she made a good impression on me, I decided to buy her book which deals with a subject that interests me very much.
The author on TV talked about it with great passion and unfortunately I must say that this passion is not transmitted in the book. The book is very readable and undoubtedly has solid foundations, but it is written in a too didactic form, a bit cold compared to what I expected after hearing her speak. It is perceived that she loves Greek very much, but it would seem more a platonic love than a carnal love. For the rest it is really a very pleasant book and deserves to be read.
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I was disappointed. I bought the book because as I linguist I love when popular books about langauges are published and because I also really like Greek although i dont speak it. But this is disappointing and a missed opportunity.
First, because so much is made of what all ancient Greek had (eg dual, neuter, aspect) and through this, a feeling of representing it as an awesome langauge - but never really looking at other languages that have this too today - and in even more quantity (particularly
I was disappointed. I bought the book because as I linguist I love when popular books about langauges are published and because I also really like Greek although i dont speak it. But this is disappointing and a missed opportunity.
First, because so much is made of what all ancient Greek had (eg dual, neuter, aspect) and through this, a feeling of representing it as an awesome langauge - but never really looking at other languages that have this too today - and in even more quantity (particularly acute is ignorance of the Slavonic languages that do have these - this book could easily be avout Slovene as it has everything she discusses even today)! When you do that, Greek no longer seems special. In a way, through praising one language over others, it commits a faux pas of linguistics - that is, do not evaluate languages one over the other. Also singling out only peculiarities makes Greek even more different :/
Second, is the author really a linguistics professional? At points this seemed to me like listening a rant of my greek friend talking of how great the greeks were and superior and this and that. Do you need a degree for this?
Im sorry to say that despite her liceo degree there is little breath of language general knowledge - I was really surprised to see she refers to a woman as emeritus even.
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Beautiful book! From linguistic analysis the author reaches very attractive conclusions on how ancient Greeks lived and felt. Not being an expert in the Greek language (I mean... I don’t understand it at all; neither modern nor classic) I cannot evaluate whether the content of the book is accurate or not. But I really enjoyed the treatment that the author gives to the classic preference in “how” versus the current focus on “when”, not only when selecting verb tenses (aoristo), but also when thin Beautiful book! From linguistic analysis the author reaches very attractive conclusions on how ancient Greeks lived and felt. Not being an expert in the Greek language (I mean... I don’t understand it at all; neither modern nor classic) I cannot evaluate whether the content of the book is accurate or not. But I really enjoyed the treatment that the author gives to the classic preference in “how” versus the current focus on “when”, not only when selecting verb tenses (aoristo), but also when thinking or feeling... that’s the major point in this book. Similarly, the description of the lost “optative” to discriminate between eventuality, possibility.. and ultimately “desire” is something that makes me wonder whether the evolution of languages is going backwards.

I thank Andrea for recovering some taste of History and Anthropology when analyzing the Greek language. She’s been able to communicate the joy of studying and using Ancient Greek, and I really felt the pleasure of literature (which is very infrequent) reading some of the sections in the book.

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Andrea Marcolongo is right, one does not need to know Greek to appreciate and to understand its importance and influence. However, the book makes the case to even learn some words and to study them even if one does not immerse into its whole grammar. Words do not exist in vacuum, but evolve. Understanding words like an archeologist digs adds many layers of meaning to understand our world, which after all cannot be understood and/or experienced without language. Having learnt some Latin helps me Andrea Marcolongo is right, one does not need to know Greek to appreciate and to understand its importance and influence. However, the book makes the case to even learn some words and to study them even if one does not immerse into its whole grammar. Words do not exist in vacuum, but evolve. Understanding words like an archeologist digs adds many layers of meaning to understand our world, which after all cannot be understood and/or experienced without language. Having learnt some Latin helps me navigate her argument. I remember my Latin professor constant references to the Greek language. I still return to an accident language, not a dead language as some will supposed, in order to inform my knowledge and my curiosity of my surrounding world. ...more

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I have spent this νοσος κακη trying to teach myself classical Greek. Textbooks are piled high and YouTube videos abound. Marcolongo's book is a breath of fresh air. Its engaging, intelligent and new. If anyone knows something like it please share. I could use more Marcolongo and less Hansen & Quinn - Groton - Smyth - etc.

Not often do I so disagree with Goodreads reviews but for this book I think many people missed the point. Its isn't a text book - it is the farthest thing from what a person stu

I have spent this νοσος κακη trying to teach myself classical Greek. Textbooks are piled high and YouTube videos abound. Marcolongo's book is a breath of fresh air. Its engaging, intelligent and new. If anyone knows something like it please share. I could use more Marcolongo and less Hansen & Quinn - Groton - Smyth - etc.

Not often do I so disagree with Goodreads reviews but for this book I think many people missed the point. Its isn't a text book - it is the farthest thing from what a person studying the language experiences - its a paean or ode - in some ways an elegy - for a way of thinking within a language. It is passionate and sophisticatedly so. It is humorous to anyone who fights through the dry and stuffy textbooks that lack even a slight upturn of the lip. Marcolonga seems to be confident and strong so -a smidge of condescension I appreciate.

I believe that Marcolongo was sharing the "why" and not the "how" and doing so by pointing out the beautiful unique complexities of Ancient Greek. She made me think about concepts that might be well defined in a textbook but never explained for active role in the language. I found she picked great examples. When she explained the "dual" I was genuinely touched and made to think about the ways in which 1+1 equal something new (not 2).

If I might humbly offer one suggestion - my optative (or is it subjunctive?) wish -more on how to think about a paragraph when translating. All those words and clauses that can be in any order but must be put in the target language is very hard. I have yet to imagine how the flow of words was pieced within the mind of the ancient Greek listener.

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In the introduction, Marcolongo states that her book can be enjoyed by those who have never studied Ancient Greek before. As someone who is entirely unfamiliar with it, I found that statement to be misleading. The book is written in a way that feels like you are reading a series of grammar lessons, therefore making it inaccessible. It may resonate more with former students of Ancient Greek, as I noticed that Marcolongo frequently addresses the reader as if they were a former Ancient Greek studen In the introduction, Marcolongo states that her book can be enjoyed by those who have never studied Ancient Greek before. As someone who is entirely unfamiliar with it, I found that statement to be misleading. The book is written in a way that feels like you are reading a series of grammar lessons, therefore making it inaccessible. It may resonate more with former students of Ancient Greek, as I noticed that Marcolongo frequently addresses the reader as if they were a former Ancient Greek student. I did find some facts interesting, especially when Ancient Greek is compared with other languages, but overall, this is a difficult read to get through if you have no prior knowledge of Ancient Greek.

Thank you to Europa Editions for providing me with an advance review copy in exchange for an honest review.

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The book says it's not necessary to know Ancient Greek to understand the book but that is not true.
I understood zero from the first chapters. I didn't get the examples. Maybe for someone who does know the Ancient Greek language, it would be a better read.
I adore Ancient Greek history and I want to learn the Ancient Greek language someday but this book failed to intensify such love. I'm sad because I waited a lot to get this book.
The book says it's not necessary to know Ancient Greek to understand the book but that is not true.
I understood zero from the first chapters. I didn't get the examples. Maybe for someone who does know the Ancient Greek language, it would be a better read.
I adore Ancient Greek history and I want to learn the Ancient Greek language someday but this book failed to intensify such love. I'm sad because I waited a lot to get this book.
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this was great and i will definitely reference this once i continue studying ancient greek!!

La lingua geniale 9 ragioni per amare il greco

This book illustrates why I wish there were a 10 star system rather than a 5 star system. I did like this book, and indeed it has inspired me to at least consider studying Ancient Greek; but it is full of holes. If there were more of a range of stars, I could accommodate both my "like" of the book with my criticisms of it. I very much liked the notion that the teaching of the language suffers in general by not giving students enough background in the history and culture of the Ancient Greeks. Th This book illustrates why I wish there were a 10 star system rather than a 5 star system. I did like this book, and indeed it has inspired me to at least consider studying Ancient Greek; but it is full of holes. If there were more of a range of stars, I could accommodate both my "like" of the book with my criticisms of it. I very much liked the notion that the teaching of the language suffers in general by not giving students enough background in the history and culture of the Ancient Greeks. There are several helpful examples of some of the tenses (aspects?), but then just when I need an example, none is forthcoming. The tone is often too condescendingly jokey, and there were several of what I hope are typographical errors (the translator's? editor's?, Kindle issue?) such as omitted articles (in a book about grammar). The book would have been better had it been heavily edited, and been just an essay. ...more

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Simple glorification of ancient Greek with complete ignorance of other languages (the aspect chapter for instance - aspects are not at all unique to ancient Greek but very common in Europe in 2021, just not in Romance languagues such as Italian...).

But that's just annoying.

I decided to through the book when I got to page 33 (in the French version)
That's where the author claims that "Indo-European" was one of the first languages spoken on earth ("... l'indo-européen, l'une des premières languges

Simple glorification of ancient Greek with complete ignorance of other languages (the aspect chapter for instance - aspects are not at all unique to ancient Greek but very common in Europe in 2021, just not in Romance languagues such as Italian...).

But that's just annoying.

I decided to through the book when I got to page 33 (in the French version)
That's where the author claims that "Indo-European" was one of the first languages spoken on earth ("... l'indo-européen, l'une des premières languges parlées sur terre")...

Usually, I keep or give away books. Even those that I don't really like. But I don't want to give away (or keep) a book with big flaws and factual faults, so this one is going into the recycling bin.

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Oct 31, 2020 Jesper rated it liked it

The author is a bit obnoxious at times but still a fun read

La lingua geniale 9 ragioni per amare il greco

I was Greek major in college, so I was excited to hear about this book. It's a bit uneven, some of which may be because it was written in Italian and translated into English. Some of the prose is jaunty and doesn't always make perfect sense. Because she often compares Greek to Italian, which is different from English, her discussion of verb aspect with the aorist gets very muddled, I believe because Italian does not have a present progressive the way English does. The same with the optative mood I was Greek major in college, so I was excited to hear about this book. It's a bit uneven, some of which may be because it was written in Italian and translated into English. Some of the prose is jaunty and doesn't always make perfect sense. Because she often compares Greek to Italian, which is different from English, her discussion of verb aspect with the aorist gets very muddled, I believe because Italian does not have a present progressive the way English does. The same with the optative mood; she could have gone into the different uses of "may", "might", "would", "should", "can" and "could" in English to explain the mood to us, but nothing. The discussion of gender is also a bit flat, as native English speakers often don't understand what it is, whereas Italians have a different experience with it. But the author has a quirky style and a lot of personality combined with very deep knowledge and passion, plus an understanding that the Greek bug does not bite the vast majority of people who are forced to take it in high school or college. While I didn't completely understand her explanations of the aorist or the optative, I learned some things that my professors never tried to explain, not to mention her useful histories of the dialects, including Koine and how it meant the death of Greek in many ways despite its traveling very far and wide. I wish I knew of a book written in English that expounded many of these things and had such a playful attitude at the same time- it would be a great thing to give to young students (and maybe there is such a book in English, but I've never heard of it). It was a quick read, however, so if you love Greek (or Latin), I recommend it. If you don't know Greek or other inflected languages, then you might find it very confusing (did I just use an optative?). ...more

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A few other reviewers have mentioned the fact that the book's blurb about "no previous knowledge of Ancient Greek needed" is misleading, and indeed it was quite daunting at first to face strings of Ancient Greek words that I don't know how to read (It's all Greek to me!). Fortunately, I didn't give up reading this book midway, because there are a lot of good and interesting lessons about learning a second language in general. The grammatical explanations are fascinating. Over time, I even tried A few other reviewers have mentioned the fact that the book's blurb about "no previous knowledge of Ancient Greek needed" is misleading, and indeed it was quite daunting at first to face strings of Ancient Greek words that I don't know how to read (It's all Greek to me!). Fortunately, I didn't give up reading this book midway, because there are a lot of good and interesting lessons about learning a second language in general. The grammatical explanations are fascinating. Over time, I even tried to decipher the Greek words on my own and it was thrilling when I figured out a word or two. At the very least, this book encouraged me to learn how to read Greek alphabet. :) ...more

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This one caught my eye in my library's return bin, so I took it home. While I am sympathetic to the premise of this book, and it did have some interesting passages, I did not think it was particularly well executed. It was very messy in structure, and quite unclear to me who exactly was supposed to be the audience for this. One moment it seems to target complete novices in language/linguistics/Greek, while at other times throwing a fair bit of linguistic terms and full paragraphs of Greek text a This one caught my eye in my library's return bin, so I took it home. While I am sympathetic to the premise of this book, and it did have some interesting passages, I did not think it was particularly well executed. It was very messy in structure, and quite unclear to me who exactly was supposed to be the audience for this. One moment it seems to target complete novices in language/linguistics/Greek, while at other times throwing a fair bit of linguistic terms and full paragraphs of Greek text at its readers. Can't say it was a very satisfying read in the end unfortunately. ...more

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The only reason I finished this book is that it was a gift and the giver asked me to give my impression of it (and now I'll have to find a way to lie but not too blatantly). The only reason I finished this book is that it was a gift and the giver asked me to give my impression of it (and now I'll have to find a way to lie but not too blatantly). ...more

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The author must change the part saying no need to know anything about Greek language. Anyone who wants to read this book must know a bit of this language.

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For my "at home" project I'm considering learning ancient Greek. This book is one of my preludes, both to help determine if this is really what I want to do, and to get a flavor for ancient Greek and what makes it unique. This book was a good start, by a professor of Ancient Greek (who is, incidentally, Italian). And based on this book, the prospect of learning Ancient Greek is made all the more appealing.

I've also recently finished The History of English in Words, by Owen Barfield, which makes

For my "at home" project I'm considering learning ancient Greek. This book is one of my preludes, both to help determine if this is really what I want to do, and to get a flavor for ancient Greek and what makes it unique. This book was a good start, by a professor of Ancient Greek (who is, incidentally, Italian). And based on this book, the prospect of learning Ancient Greek is made all the more appealing.

I've also recently finished The History of English in Words, by Owen Barfield, which makes many references to the ways in which English was influenced by Greek. And I listen to a podcast called The History of the English Language which makes many references to words and phrases derived from Greek.

Both books speak of the unique nature of Greek for communicating abstractions, ideals, and aspects of our inner world. Latin doesn't do that, and modern languages don't either.

I've also recently bought a bible with side-by-side Greek and English. Deep understanding of the Gospels is probably my target use case, but reading the Greek philosophers and especially Greek plays and poetry would also be nice (Owen Barfield says one can't truly experience translated poetry, which makes sense... not that I read a lot of English poetry either).

Because so much of the focus of Ancient Greek (and any language, I suppose) is on grammar. From what little along those lines I've been exposed to, I thought it wise to try to understand English grammar better before digging in. Hence, a new book, The Blue Book of Grammar and Punctuation, is in my queue--the 11th edition, the recognized authority for decades.

When I say "ancient Greek" I really mean two languages/dialects: what is called Ancient Greek, which survived up to the time of Alexander the Great; and Koine Greek (also called Hellenistic Greek) which is the language of the New Testament as well as late classical poetry and philosophy. It's not entirely clear to me that learning one makes reading of the other possible--I think it does, but with some effort.

So isn't ancient Greek harder to learn than a living language? Yes and no. I think it's harder because it has a different alphabet (but probably not as hard as Mandarin, for example). But if I were to learn German, I'd learn:
1. how to speak it
2. how to understand it when spoken
3. how to write it
4. how to read it

With Ancient Greek it's only the fourth thing I'd have to learn--how to read it. I'll never how to learn how to ask directions to the train station, nor do I have to decode the spoken language where native speakers don't pause between words or phrases. So in that way it's easier. Probably not as easy as learning a programming language, though, since the grammar is harder.

I haven't fully decided on Ancient Greek as a course of study. It depends to some extent on how much I like the preliminaries, and whether something better comes along. One other candidate area for deep study is geometry. I would start with Pythagoras and Euclid (both Greek!) and plot a path that would lead to projective geometry.

There's also the "both" option but I have lifespan considerations that might preclude taking on too much.

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“I am certain, however, that studying Greek helps you develop a talent for life, love, and hard work, for choosing to take responsibility for your successes and failures. It also helps you take pleasure in things, even when things aren’t all that perfect.”

“The life of a language resides in the human beings who use it to comprehend the world, who live by putting that world into words.”

“The Ingenious Language: Nine Epic Reasons to Love Greek” by Andrea Marcolongo, translated from Italian by Will S

“I am certain, however, that studying Greek helps you develop a talent for life, love, and hard work, for choosing to take responsibility for your successes and failures. It also helps you take pleasure in things, even when things aren’t all that perfect.”

“The life of a language resides in the human beings who use it to comprehend the world, who live by putting that world into words.”

“The Ingenious Language: Nine Epic Reasons to Love Greek” by Andrea Marcolongo, translated from Italian by Will Schutt, is a love letter to ancient Greek. Marcolongo examines the “why” behind grammatical structures, exploring their cognitive underpinnings and the challenges of translating them. Topics she tackles in detail include aspect, pronunciation, genders and the dual, word order flexibility, and the optative. My favorite sections were those on aspect and the optative. Translation and grammar are fascinations of mine, and if they are yours as well, I would recommend this book. Marcolongo’s obvious passion for language and willingness to look beyond the surface of grammar make this book a pleasure to think with.

That said, there were a few conclusions I disagreed with, cultural rather than grammatical, vigorously enough that they merit mention. One is when she asserts that the 7th century BC ushered in “a culture of individuals, which demanded stories about the feelings, passions, grief, and moods of an ‘I.’” I would argue that Greek subjectivity has always been social and communal, not an isolated individual. Second, I was uncomfortable with some of her assumptions and interpretations of modern Greeks. Greek identity and language are complex and paradoxical phenomena that resist generalizing and standardizing. In my experience, it’s difficult even for Greeks, diaspora and within the nation, to wrap our heads around it. To say, as Marcolongo does, that Greeks are “incapable of getting out from under the past” feels to me like a product of Western European prioritizing of “progress” (even if illusory). Both one and two seem, to me, to result from fundamental misunderstanding of Greek values that have remained, in some ways, startlingly consistent for 2,500 years.

If you have read this book, I would love to hear your thoughts in the comments. If not, do you enjoy books about language and grammar and their connection to cultural values?

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I wanted to like this book more than I did. Ancient Greek has been waiting its turn for a long time on my list of languages I want to learn. Like Sanskrit, which I learned in order to penetrate more deeply into the literature, culture and philosophy of ancient India, I have seen Greek as a door into another world. Ancient cultures are so different from our own that when we read their authors in translation, we are especially vulnerable to the assumptions, beliefs and skill of the translator, who I wanted to like this book more than I did. Ancient Greek has been waiting its turn for a long time on my list of languages I want to learn. Like Sanskrit, which I learned in order to penetrate more deeply into the literature, culture and philosophy of ancient India, I have seen Greek as a door into another world. Ancient cultures are so different from our own that when we read their authors in translation, we are especially vulnerable to the assumptions, beliefs and skill of the translator, who must choose a single rendering among many possibilities to convey the intent and sensibility of the author, while often effacing the ambiguity that resides in the original expression. When you read the original text, you have direct access to both precision and the subtlety of the author's expression.

So I was receptive to the Marcolongo's passion for Greek and the access it provides to the unique sensibility of Hellenism. But this passion leads to maddeningly exaggerated claims, undermined by her subsequent analysis.

We will never know for certain how a Greek word is pronounced. The sounds of Greek have vanished forever along with those who spoke it. We have their literature we can read and study them, but we can't pronounce them. They have come down to us silent. Stifled. Voiceless. [53]

The first sentence is accurate, but the subsequent hyperbole is at odds with her detailed explanation of Greek pitch accent, rhythm, vowel length, and the like. Likewise, she sets up a discussion about how Greek survived Roman invasion with, "Rome only succeeded in imposing its language on races open to social change." [192] Not exactly how imperial conquest works.

The book is part memoir and part instruction. Perhaps it would have succeeded better had it committed more fully to one or the other.

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Ancient Greek is something that sometimes we think it exclusive for academics, yet the beauty and rareness of this language keep seducing many people around the world, through different ages. The book aims to approach us to the way ancient Greeks used to see and think about the world, and hopefully it will change the the way we see it now.

The first chapters of the book made me doubt about my expectations, they seem to be pretty academic on the topics even though the author is always spicing the

Ancient Greek is something that sometimes we think it exclusive for academics, yet the beauty and rareness of this language keep seducing many people around the world, through different ages. The book aims to approach us to the way ancient Greeks used to see and think about the world, and hopefully it will change the the way we see it now.

The first chapters of the book made me doubt about my expectations, they seem to be pretty academic on the topics even though the author is always spicing the narrative with her teenager experiences learning Greek in the Italian «Liceo Clásico». This was probably due to my limited knowledge on grammar, rules, and the different language structures that I memorized on secondary school but I never bother to learn.

By the end of the book, she starts relating the history of Greek language (since the Indo European root until the modern Greek). This was by far my favorite part since the narrative is more fluid, different historical events that led to the changes of the language are mentioned, and the author shares thoughtful ideas that relate to our current times.

Even without fully understanding the grammatical explanations or the Greek texts provided, this was a nice read, in which I could learn a whole more about my language crush on Greek. However, this is not a book that I would recommend to anyone, if I have to be honest, people who has or is currently struggling learning Ancient Greek would get the most out of it. Yet, there are some weirdos –just like me– and some language enthusiasts that would find it worth.

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Not that I need any more reasons - the title had me at "Greek" ... oh wait, that's literally the last word.
Nevermind.

This book is a weird little thing; as others have noted, if you have no Greek, large parts of it make no sense - on the other hand, if you have a reasonable amount of Greek, large parts of it appear chatty and superficial.
I will not enumerate the approximations, generalisations, and errors made, merely point to the early warning sign of the author claiming to be "strange", a cl

Not that I need any more reasons - the title had me at "Greek" ... oh wait, that's literally the last word.
Nevermind.

This book is a weird little thing; as others have noted, if you have no Greek, large parts of it make no sense - on the other hand, if you have a reasonable amount of Greek, large parts of it appear chatty and superficial.
I will not enumerate the approximations, generalisations, and errors made, merely point to the early warning sign of the author claiming to be "strange", a claim that is repeated at the end of the book. (This is too reminiscent of a 16 yr-old who has just discovered surrealism and thinks he's the cat's whiskers for "getting" it.)
So the question of the intended audience for this is left open - unless it is meant for beginning students, in which case it's more of a "see how well I understand Greek" than a help for them. I'm certainly not recommending it to my students.

There is an inordinate emphasis on Attic and Koine and later Greek (including the table of pronuncination at the back, which is obviously Modern Greek); the explanation for this may come in the passage on the liceo classico, where students read only prose (predominantly Attic, it seems). Which is rather horrifying: how can anybody claim to understand Greek thought and literature, let alone teach it, without Homer? So maybe the shallowness of the author's view stems from a shallowness in education.

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La lingua geniale 9 ragioni per amare il greco

The Ingenious Language: Nine Epic Reasons to Love Greek.
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This book is a very personal novelistic approach of the writer to ancient Greek that opens a different perspective on the way we perceive the language in general, even for those who believe that their relationship with it was difficult, distant or not exactly paved with rose petals during their school years. The wonderful thing is that Marcolongo gives us a different perspective on language in a way that resembles experience, as an examp
The Ingenious Language: Nine Epic Reasons to Love Greek.
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This book is a very personal novelistic approach of the writer to ancient Greek that opens a different perspective on the way we perceive the language in general, even for those who believe that their relationship with it was difficult, distant or not exactly paved with rose petals during their school years. The wonderful thing is that Marcolongo gives us a different perspective on language in a way that resembles experience, as an example turning the contact with the ancient Greek language into an intriguing adventure accessible to all!
QOTD: do you like reading books that help you understand subjects that were difficult for you at school?
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Andrea Marcolongo. Η υπέροχη γλώσσα. 9 λόγοι για ν'αγαπήσεις τα αρχαία ελληνικά.

Μια προσωπική μυθιστορηματική προσέγγιση των αρχαίων ελληνικών που ανοίγει μια διαφορετική οπτική στον τρόπο που αντιλαμβανόμαστε τη γλώσσα, ακόμα και σε όσους πιστεύουν πως η σχέση τους μαζί της υπήρξε δύσκολη, αποστασιοποιημένη ή δεν ήταν ακριβώς στρωμένη με ροδοπέταλα κατά τα σχολικά τους χρόνια. Το υπέροχο είναι πως η Marcolongo το κάνει όχι με αρτηριοσκληρωτική προγονολατρεία αλλά βιωματικά, σαν παράδειγμα ή περιπέτεια σχεδόν συγκινητική.

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La lingua geniale 9 ragioni per amare il greco

good book, a little too pop, and perhaps a little too european, for me. i love this spicy part from the author's acknowledgements though:

PATHEI MATHOS, writes Aeschylus, "Understanding comes from sorrow." Over the last few years, when things have been toughest, I have absorbed this motto so fully that it has become etched in me--and freed me of my rancor.
Thanks to all those who were and are no longer my friends, because you never forgave me for being happy. Thanks to those who hurt and abandoned

good book, a little too pop, and perhaps a little too european, for me. i love this spicy part from the author's acknowledgements though:

PATHEI MATHOS, writes Aeschylus, "Understanding comes from sorrow." Over the last few years, when things have been toughest, I have absorbed this motto so fully that it has become etched in me--and freed me of my rancor.
Thanks to all those who were and are no longer my friends, because you never forgave me for being happy. Thanks to those who hurt and abandoned me, thanks to those who forced me to apologize for succeeding in doing what I have always wanted to do: write. Thanks to you I have learned a lot--especially who I'm not.

What delicious drama! What life lessons! I love it when authors lift the curtain before the curtain comes down. I need to free myself of my rancor so bad I've been putting this song on loop whose chorus starts with the line: cambiemos el color de la amargura...

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La lingua geniale 9 ragioni per amare il greco

This is a love letter to the study of language (all language, not just Greek). I read this for fun -- I'm not a classicist, though I did take a semester of ancient Greek in college - and I found it, for the most part, engaging and funny. I do think some of the interesting connections to modern language were lost to me as an English speaker reading this in translation from the original Italian because, for example, I don't know the difference between dialects in Florence and Livorno, but on a who This is a love letter to the study of language (all language, not just Greek). I read this for fun -- I'm not a classicist, though I did take a semester of ancient Greek in college - and I found it, for the most part, engaging and funny. I do think some of the interesting connections to modern language were lost to me as an English speaker reading this in translation from the original Italian because, for example, I don't know the difference between dialects in Florence and Livorno, but on a whole worth the read. (Also, I'm not sure there ARE specifically 9 reasons as the subhead indicates, so maybe just don't think about that while you read.) ...more

La lingua geniale 9 ragioni per amare il greco

2.5
Pros:
- You can really tell she has a passion for classic Greek.
- She puts the focus on some of the interesting items from the language that are now lost
- Can be read quite quickly

Cons:
- Poor structure. It should start with the last chapter and then explain the language from the culture and not trying doing it the other way around.
- Can be summarized in a quarter of the size.
- Just scratches the topic with vagueness and too many repetitions of the same.
- There are many points to be made, com

2.5
Pros:
- You can really tell she has a passion for classic Greek.
- She puts the focus on some of the interesting items from the language that are now lost
- Can be read quite quickly

Cons:
- Poor structure. It should start with the last chapter and then explain the language from the culture and not trying doing it the other way around.
- Can be summarized in a quarter of the size.
- Just scratches the topic with vagueness and too many repetitions of the same.
- There are many points to be made, comparisons with today times that are just presented (if any).

It would have been a really nice book but seems just a draft on the early stages of development.

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La lingua geniale 9 ragioni per amare il greco

You know, I think Marcolongo's book maybe fails at its premise. It is designed to be a quick tour of the ancient Greek language and consciousness for someone who has never studies it. I stopped my Attic Greek studies four years ago after only two years. Despite my previous studies, I really struggled to piece together how Marcolongo explained the language.

BUT, what an amazing concluding chapter. Marcolongo does a brief survey of the modern and ancient Greek world and wraps the "moral" of ancient

You know, I think Marcolongo's book maybe fails at its premise. It is designed to be a quick tour of the ancient Greek language and consciousness for someone who has never studies it. I stopped my Attic Greek studies four years ago after only two years. Despite my previous studies, I really struggled to piece together how Marcolongo explained the language.

BUT, what an amazing concluding chapter. Marcolongo does a brief survey of the modern and ancient Greek world and wraps the "moral" of ancient Greek up succinctly.

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La lingua geniale 9 ragioni per amare il greco

May 15, 2017 Aleksandra rated it really liked it

A rather charming and entertaining book about the reasons to fall in love with ancient Greek. I could not miss it for the world.

La lingua geniale 9 ragioni per amare il greco

Aug 14, 2019 Suzana rated it liked it

I expected a bit more from this book. Enjoyable for those who are passionate about languages and want to learn more about Ancient Greek, but felt a bit scattered at times.

La lingua geniale 9 ragioni per amare il greco

Fatal Attraction

Brilliant, warm writer. Leaves me wanting more. even in the winter of my life. Hoping to relaunch my immersion into the depths.

Andrea Marcolongo, nata nel 1987 e laureata in Lettere classiche presso l'Università degli Studi di Milano, è una scrittrice italiana attualmente tradotta in 27 Paesi. Autrice de La lingua geniale. 9 ragioni per amare il greco (Laterza, 2016) e de La misura eroica (Mondadori, 2018), scrive per TuttoLibri de «La Stampa». Traduttrice dal greco, visiting professor presso l'Universidad de Los Andes di Andrea Marcolongo, nata nel 1987 e laureata in Lettere classiche presso l'Università degli Studi di Milano, è una scrittrice italiana attualmente tradotta in 27 Paesi. Autrice de La lingua geniale. 9 ragioni per amare il greco (Laterza, 2016) e de La misura eroica (Mondadori, 2018), scrive per TuttoLibri de «La Stampa». Traduttrice dal greco, visiting professor presso l'Universidad de Los Andes di Bogotá e l'UNAM di Città del Messico e presidente 2019 del Festival de l'histoire di Blois, è stata finalista in Francia al Prix des Lecteurs. Ora vive a Parigi. ...more

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